Suicide....?!
Question: I am doing research for a suicidology assignment. The main subject of my project is..why is suicide so hard to prevent..now this is where i need y!a users help. If you have known anyone that committed suicide, did you notice that they go through a state of euphoric happiness before they died (almost as if they were couldn't wait for their pain to end etc.) if any of you could elaborate on that i would be so grateful. I appreciate all answer, thanks in advance
Answers: I am doing research for a suicidology assignment. The main subject of my project is..why is suicide so hard to prevent..now this is where i need y!a users help. If you have known anyone that committed suicide, did you notice that they go through a state of euphoric happiness before they died (almost as if they were couldn't wait for their pain to end etc.) if any of you could elaborate on that i would be so grateful. I appreciate all answer, thanks in advance
I was thinking about this in regards to myself.When I got the closest to suicide that I have ever been and crossed the line of thinking about and actually acting strongly on the thoughts and then deciding to do it. I did have a sense of tying up loose ends like I didnt want to have a messy house or clutter to be left to be cleaned up by others.
To help with the pressure I was under I had given myself permission to keep going and going and if one last thing just was the absolute final straw I decided I would need to be ready. So my main noticable obsession was getting my environment ready and uncluttering my life. No euphoria just a kind of sense of calmness and sorting and tidying and preparing.
When you do ask for help in a big crisis you deal with so many passing through medical people and therapists etc so you have bits of help and promises from one place and then a little bit somewhere else. Its generally with the best of intentions but there is only so much that they can do. When you see them hitting the wall of their reserves you think well if you cant do anything and Im asking you for help because I cant do anything then who can.
Then the answer feels like no one.
The help to prevent it is just a distracting noise in the background whilst you and you alone think your thoughts and do it or dont do it. All the time I was looking for little hooks and loop holes to give me reason to do it or not to do it. I think that means there might always be a little loop hole or a little light spot somewhere within the cycles of the blackness of it that means it is possible to help someone prevent themselves doing it.
Ideally if someone can stay by your side and be strong and help you through it all and connect up all your worlds - therapy and home and physical health etc then maybe it is preventable. Not being treated as a patient but as a thinking person might help as well because then you dont go into a mode of having no voice about your own state and then you begin to diffuse the responsities for your own actions to others because the strongest part of you is being ignored and devalued.
Suicide is a hard thing to prevent, not because we dont have the tools, but because it is such a personal experience. When a person is depressed they are less likely to let others know how they are feeling. it is so hard to "read' people and anyone can be suicidal and you will never know it uintil it is too late.
I'm not sure I understand the question.
Why is it hard to prevent? And does it have something to do with that happiness right before it happens?
I can see how the two could be related and make it harder to predict BUT I think most people who commit suicide are depressed through out the whole ordeal.
I think the only ones who would actually experience a "happiness" might be the ones who have thought about it in the past but backed out. Yes, I imagine anyone who feels so much pain that suicide is their only answer would feel good to know that it was going to be over soon. Wrapping up lose ends would also make them feel like they are being helpful to loved ones and probably offsets any guilt they might have otherwise experienced.
In either case IF a person is truly considering suicide I really think they keep it to themselves and just do it.
I also believe the ones who give "warning signals" want to commit suicide but are scared and therefore hope that by giving signals (intentionally or not) someone will step in to stop them.
ALL PERSONAL AND FAMILY RELATED, DETAILS TOO LONG.
Yes have personally know, reason frustration and lack of future happiness.
Family members: chemical em-balances
Traumatic effects can't stand to live with any longer
Don't see any light a head
Do not want to continue this way for the next 5, 10,... years
Tired of trying
Usually people that commit suicide are teenagers, most of them do because of the fact that they supposedly have ''too many problems in their lives'' but they really don't they are just going through a stage of teenage life. teenagers are usually really emotional. grown adults most likely commit suicide because if they do then they will hurt their family members and friends, so they think about that first. My brother could have commit ed suicide but he didn't because he knew how much it would hurt all of us his family. But teenagers don't think about that...
HOPE IT WAS HELPFUL
Suicide is hard to prevent simply because people who want a 'way out' will get it. If you're depressed enough to want to commit suicide, you don't think rationally at all. And, an addition to the post above, it's actually the elderly who make up the majority of people who die by suicide. In most cases loneliness, the fear of being alone or the fear of a long drawn out illness or incapacity drives them to depression and then to suicide.
Suicide is hard to prevent because most people don't realize another person is ready to kill themselves until it's too late. If a person really wants to die then they don't usually tell other people about it because they don't want to be stopped.
When I tried to kill myself I smiled for the first time in many months right after I took 200 pills. I don't know if you define a smile as 'euphoric happiness' but it was the first time I felt a hint of happiness in a very long time.
Hope this helps...
I've never known anyone who actually went through suicide. But I do know that both my brother and I have tried, and I personally was exstatic when I decided to do it, and my brother was not. The difference for us was the motivation. I'd planned it, wanting to write letters and get the hell out of it. My brother did it as an impulse, an instantaneous decision to just stop the pain.
I don't know which is worse or which would be preventable. I do know both my brother and I suffer from Bi Polar disorder, and have had to take medication and attend therapy sessions.
I hope this helps a little bit.
suicide is so hard to prevent as depressed people are fixated on killing themselves and see it as their only way out..
i knew some one who committed suicide and whilst he was recieving all kinds of treatment (meds, therapy...) he thought the only way that he could be truly happy was by ending his life of suffering.
whilst you can sometimes notice clear signs from a suicidal person (such as; talking about death, statements like 'i feel like killing myself, plans ...etc) often it is a very sudden decision..
for e.g a newsreader from perth, even though she had a wedding planned out, one afternoon she decided to end her life by jumping of a cliff...
whilst she may have planned this , it was a sudden gesture that unless the depressed person had constant supervision (24/7) it couldn't be prevented.
however i also think that because it is such a taboo subject in society , the impact of suicide on individuals and communities goes 'under the radar' and significant research in preventing it is harder to do because suicide talk is often concealed.. (well what i have noticed in Australia anyway)
so when the world is ready to be educated on it then we can provide coping mechanisms that could try and help prevent depression and suicide acts!
p.s when i attempted suicide i was not at all euphoric, i didn't leave any notes or letters, i was feeling extremely low and unhappy...when i think back to that time i would say it was the lowest i could have felt, i was also very regretful at the time (regretful as it's a very bad choice)...
Its hard to prevent because no one wants to really talk about it. You go to chat rooms and it is Taboo. They say they are there to help you but you cant talk about suicide. What is the point